To be fair, yes they are doing some things with new technology, but one major example you pointed out (their hybird engine) actually comes from Toyota (they pay them to use the technology). However, I am not just referring to engines. I am referring to everything that goes on a car. They are not providing their best cars to the American public. Where is the Mondeo, why aren't we getting the new Focus (Europe has it already, and reports say it is so much better than the old Focus)? This lack of "innovation" (I can't think of a better word right now because I have been drinking a lot on what is my last night with my Polish friends before I start my journey back to the staes) in the US is due to fear of change. This is not just a problem with American Car companies, it is prevalent throughout the American Business world. We think we have the best of the best in technology, but we are behind because our businesses are afraid of the cost of making the changes, so they wait until it is necessary (and the rest of the world is about to move on to something better) before we get it in the states. That is one of the reasons why foreign companies are passing us by (of course there is also the major reason of lower costs for labor, which means larger profit margins, but that is not all no matter what the people who run our businesses will tell you). Okay, I apologize. I should have stopped this post a long time ago, so I will now. But remember, there are solutions out there that the American car companies are afraid to try because of fear of costs, and that is actually costing them more in the long run.

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your cars are too big and waste gas, and Japanese engineering is ahead of its time.

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Your GTO is a 5.7 and makes 400hp. My S2000 is a 2.0 and makes 230hp, my Supra is a 3.0 and makes 320hp, and my Type-S is a 2.0 and makes 215hp. Thats why the domestics are inferior. Your GTO should be making 570hp or more. I dont even know why you put the Camry on there, you might as well have put the Taurus and Lumina on there. Pound for pound, many of the imports are better not just because of reliability and technology, but the use of displacement and resources.

High power doesnt mean is necessarily faster, your forgetting gear ratios, weight, and the drivetrain. Some of those US cars are quite slow because there very heavy. That lower power Lancer Evo will easily beat the mustang, and you have the 350z hp and torque ratings for the 35th anniversary, lets think about this, it has that much power out of a 3.5l V6, while the mustang has a little more out of a 4.6l V8. The mustang also weighs 3500lbs, with a 0-60 of 5.2 and the 350z weighs 3250lbs and has a 0-60 in 5.3 almost identicly 0-60s yet the 350z has less power. Even more, the Evo is a 2.0L Inline 4, and has a 0-60 of 5.1.

Edited by Silo55 (Sat Jul 16, 05   2:51 PM)

Pardon me, but the Evo is not underpowered. In fact, it makes about 70 more hp on an AWD platform. The Evo's 300hp comes from a 19psi turbo platform, and takes the cake on the Rustangs 230. The 350Z isn't the most nimble of cars, and is pretty heavy. the 350 has like 13 less hp (which I think is just purposely understated by Nissan) You throw a turbo on a 350 or a Rustang and its a different story. The GT Stang is a force to be reckoned with out of the box, but the Evo would still beat it. I used to have a Legend (stock) that would lose by a 1/2 a car (or more) to the 3.5 stang, so they arent that special. The moral of the story is that the Evo does NOT have less power than the 3.5 stang.

Ermmm, i was comparing the Evo to the 4.6L V8 Mustang, not the 3.5 V6. I never even mentioned the 3.5.

Regardless, the Evo is still a very different situation from all other imports minus the STI.

ill just comment this on the "new focus" it will be out soon enough.